From ET Contact to Spiritual Transformation


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Episode 97: On this episode, researcher, author and experiencer, Kathleen joins me once again on the show. Kathleen is known as one of the leading UFO contact researchers of our time. Since 1990, she has been researching the perplexing nature of UFOs and non-human entities via her own groundbreaking research, investigation, and experimentation. Her interest in UFOs and contact began in 1961, when her aunt and uncle, Betty and Barney Hill had a close encounter and subsequent abduction in New Hampshire’s White Mountains, a case in which she spent 15 years investigating. She has worked on three comprehensive studies on nearly 5,000 experiencers. Her bestseller with nuclear physicist Stanton T. Friedman is “Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience”. She and Stanton worked together for nearly 14 years and collaborated on two additional books “Science Was Wrong” and “Fact, Fiction, and Flying Saucers”. In her new book, Forbidden Knowledge: A Personal Journey from Alien Abduction to Spiritual Transformation, for the first time, she talks about her own experiences as an ET contactee and about how she grew spiritually as a result of her contact experiences. She also talked about how she came to know the “Council of Eight” and about the benevolent ETs who interact with us. To find out more about Kathleen and her work, you can visit her website at:

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Music by: Sergey Cheremisinov